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Welcome to Scary Mystery Surprise. Welcome guys. I'm Edwin, I'm Michelle. God damn it. We'll get it. We'll get it. So what do you think of this? By the way, Michelle, what do you think of Annabelle? What do you know? I didn't know a lot. I stay away from scary dolls. I'm not like a huge fan of a demon possessed doll. It's not like my go to scary comfort show. I'd have to say, but I don't like them. And in fact, I thought it was funny when you had so just a behind the scenes fact, Edwin has a doll that sits behind him in his studio in California, and why I'm a weird little doll back there. Like I don't do it consciously, right, Like when I travel sometimes I see little dolls, like creepy looking rag dolls or whatever, and I'm like, I want this. I'm gonna I want to give this to somebody. And for this, I'm like, how cool will it be to just have a doll? Yeah, it looks spooky as hell. So I'm going to read from the article, and here is what happens. The annabel doll is not as creepy looking as the movie creators to picture. Whoa, whoa, raggedy ANNs are creepy. I don't know. You'd never let a doll that looked like that into your house. There's no way, like in the movie. Yeah, like the cheekbones and the height and stuff that it's like little girl height or whatever. But also, raggedy ANNs are weird. I don't know, I find them like plushy, like you could put them next to a baby. Yeah. Maybe the doll is dramatized as a way to add a level of chilling fear into the audience. From the pale porcelain skin and layered makeup to the long pigtails and white dress, the doll in theaters is sure to leave you thinking about her in the middle of the night while you try to fall asleep. However, if you knew what the real doll looked like, you would probably be shocked by its differences. Annabelle looks like and the old raggedy and type dolls that your parents had as children. She has red hair made of yarn, big black eyes, a triangle nose, and a giant, eerie smile across her face. It's like a creepy ginger doll. It is with weird clown hair. Yeah, they're very creepy. The smile is huge. I didn't realize that it was just lips, but no, it's yeah, okay, okay, I'll give you that one. Perhaps it makes her just as creepy as knowing what she has done, despite how innocent she looks. I love how it's sinister that sounds. It seems that for just as long as dolls have served as cute toys and gifts for family members, as was Anabel, they also have been surrounded by death and morbidity. Let's go back all the way to the Victorian era, a time where many children never live to see adulthood, and introduce you to mourning dolls. Mourning dolls just gets worse and worse, does it does? Like morning? By the this is morning as in morning, not like grief, like yeah yeah, not like good morning. Yea. This is pretty sad right the Victorian era. This is when like kids would get poisoned for drinking out of a cup with lead. The Victorian era was a time where the divide between the upper and lower class became larger. Therefore, only certain families that could afford to, would start to make morning dolls. Dealing with the death of an infant or a child can be next to impossible, so they would start to make these dolls as a way to cope with their loss. It would be placed on the casket during the wake and funeral, and even some people would take it home and care for it like a real child. No, that's so bad to say. It's sad. No, it's gonna like trap that little kid's spirit in the doll. Like, that's why there's a haunted doll section on eBay. Wait, there's a haunted a second haunted dolls. It's just there's a haunted section on eBay. You can buy a divoc box if you want. You can buy a haunted object if you want. Not only were the dolls life sized and sculpted with wax or around sand weights to add a real life effect, they were also made with a deceased child's real hair and clo course. Totally normal. Totally normal to care for your wax dead child. Now, apparently the size and the weight of the dolls just wasn't realistic enough. Oh yeah, complaints they had complex any people still seem to connect dolls to real children, as is Robert the Doll, who was named after its owner, Robert Eugene Otto. He grew up with his family in Key West, Florida, and they gave him the doll as a gift sometimes during the early nineteen hundreds. The boy instantly took a liking to the doll and they became best friends. After some time, though, the family began to have mysterious events happen in the house. The boy would start to blame all of his misbehavior and wrongdoings on the doll. The family said that the doll started changing positions on its own when no one was in the room. God, the worst thing was when the parents stating that they would hear their son having conversations with the doll in his room and a different voice responding to him. Is that where the Robert the Doll story ends on? That? Because I heard about how when he grew up, he gave Robert his whole room to live in. What well, Yeah, from what I see here this lego short paragraph after the let's see. After Robert Otto passed away in nineteen seventy four, the doll was named after him and was donated to the East Martella Museum for Safekeeping City because his wife was so pissed that Robert had its own room and it would move and stuff, and she was so creeped out by it that they donated him to the museum. Wait really, yeah, yeah, he got married and gave a doll its own room, which seems to be its own issue. The doll could have just not been and it's still a guy giving a doll its own Okay, that is creepy, and it makes me a little more suspicious of what was going on. Maybe it was the guy making a different voice responding to him. Okay, So now it's in the museum, sitting there surrounded by letters of both apology and admiration. It is said that the guests who are rude or don't ask permission before taking his picture experience a great misfortune. Oh Ki Kou the living doll. Much like Robert, Another supposedly haunted doll that has cared for and on display is Okiku or ok Ku. She has a female doll that was given as a gift in nineteen eighteen Japan by a young man to his little sister. Sadly, though, the young girl ended up dying a year later from the flute. Grief stricken, the family made a shrine in her memory where they laid out the doll. But soon they began to notice that the doll's hair was growing, which should not have been happening like that. I like that. Yeah, yeah, it shouldn't have been happening under perception, not have been happening. So they ended up giving the giving it to the Menenji Temple in Hokkaido, Japan to be cared for even to this day, So it's still Hokkaido, Japan. Interesting. The Curse of Harold even much more, even in a much more modern age. It seems that haunted dolls keep appearing to no matter where we turn. Take Harold for example, a doll that came from none other than eBay. Oh see, there you go. He was put up for auction in two thousand and three by a man named Greg, and his friend Kathy ended up purchasing it from him. So like his friend, yeah, what follows his eBay account? Why didn't they just do that off the books? Why did they have to do it to pay commission when you don't have to? Okay, somebody should tell that's the that's the scariest part of that story as they do that. Yeah, poor Kathy. Apparently, once Kathy purchased the doll, strange things started happening in her life that she locked it away not even a year later. She put it off her auction again in two thousand and four because she could no longer deal with Harold plaguing her life. According to the current owner, she said that while she didn't believe the doll was haunted, she did believe it was cursed. Actually, hu, so one would be like there's something living in the doll that would be haunted, but then cursed would be like your life is like all bad things start to happen, amore. Oh okay, yeah, okay. This is because in the six month span that she had the doll before locking it away, two of her friends ended up perishing tragically. This was enough for her to get rid of the doll by any means, and she was successful as someone else was very eager to buy it. They claimed to still have the doll until this day. I would buy a doll like that, but I don't know. Obviously, I'm a bit more skeptical with this stuff. Maybe coincidence. Plus, I don't know. Always bought a haunted doll for thirty days, I've bought a hanted doll. Yeah, you bought a haunted doll. And I'll be over here observing, not dealing with a haunted doll. The last little fellow on our list before we get to the real star of the show is Norman the doll. I have to admit he is in a very popular one. In fact, I only came across him in the documentary series titled a Haunting on the TV channel Destination America. Ooh, I've seen that show. I know me too, I love that show. Yeah, it's really good. He was purchased from an antique store by a paranormal investigator named Stephen Lancaster and his wife, who has now written two books on his experiences owning Norman. There were even clips for Steven capturing the dolls supposedly moving on camera, and while there is no way to be sure if it's real, it doesn't necessarily mean that I don't get goosebumps every time I watch it. Even if you don't believe everything you have read so far about dolls being haunted, why are most of us still afraid of them? Surprisingly, most of us are not born afraid of dolls. In fact, most of us probably love them as little children. So where did all of that change? Ooh, this is interesting? Okay, So I remember asking for this. I wanted like an explanation of like, why are we afraid just as our fear of dolls. So this may be due to multiple different factors, but there is no certain answer to this question. Perhaps pop culture has somehow conditioned us to be afraid of them, with horror movies about dolls being released left and right. This may be. This may condition our brains to associate dolls with the feeling of being unsafe, or maybe someone experienced a traumatic event that involved the doll. Whatever the reason may be, it doesn't seem like our view of dolls is changing anytime soon. So you say, Michelle that you are afraid of dolls, like, I wouldn't say I'm afraid. I'd say they like make me uncomfortable, they make me like and why do you think that happens? I don't know, Like they just are like small people things that I don't know, people that aren't quite right, something's off, or maybe I'm just so tainted with all the paranormal culture of the doll is now a vessel like the doll now holds a spirit because it was the closest thing I could find a human form or something. Yeah, I really like this new theory that I heard about. How when ghosts or spirits or whatever they try to show up in our like a real life, they're trying not to scare us. They take the shape of a child or something like that. So maybe something that's not that scary, they make it scary. This is why children are super like creepy like when they come up and they'll ghost stories and if they're like an evil entity, they say that they show up as a large man or like a large shadow or something like that. But they can show up as a kid to get invited into your life too. That's the other thing is that they appear harmless when they're not. This is a story of the real doll, all right, So this is Annabelle. Annabelle looks much different in real life. That is not the only thing in real life that dif first from the movies. In fact, the movies are completely fabricated, aside from the involvement of Ed and Lorraine Warren that is seen in the beginning. It says the movies never told the real stories of the people who own the doll when the Warrens had to step in. In real life, the doll was a gift from a mother to her twenty eight year old nursing student. Okay, first of all, what a weird gift to give somebody. Here is this raggedy ann Tom to my twenty eight year old daughter. Yeah, like why it was in nineteen seventy so yeah, but like you're still twenty eight years old. It's very strange. It's a very strange gift just to accompany her. I don't know. At the time, she was living with another nursing student, Angie, and Angie's fiancee, Lou was a frequent visitor. All three experienced supernatural events surrounding the doll. They said that, like most hauntings, everything started off small and not necessarily frightening. At first. They would come home to find the doll in different positions, very subtle changes, though then it became bolder. The doll would begin to move between rooms. Sometimes it would find it with its arms folded and legs crossed, and even standing against a chair and bending its knees on a chair. How would it stand like Captain Morgan, I don't know, Captain Morgan. Yeah, and it's just standing, just just standing. It wants us to drink rum, and it's really weird. So they try to get the doll to maneuver it the same way, and they couldn't get it to do that, says Then things slowly started to become more intense, with them coming home to find handwritten notes on parchment paper that looked like a child scribbled them out. The notes would read help us or help Loop, which was a fiance who frequented the apartment that lived in Okay. Notes, all right, it's weird. It's weird. If you have a all hand, I don't think it can hold a pencil. It would be like it does have two hands, So I guess yeah, there you go, help me, it, says. Things changed though, when Donna came home one day had report found what looked like blood on the back of the doll's hand, drops of it in the chest. This was when she decided to contact a medium in hopes of helping her deal with the doll. Instead of getting rid of the doll dummies Amateur hour over here god cam Mature Hour. The medium decided to hold the seance in the apartment with them, and said that the spirit of a seven year old girl named Annabelle was stuck there because the grounds of the apartment had been where her body was discovered many years ago. The little girl asked for them for permission to live in the doll and send the young woman felt bad for her that he agreed these people, but it ended up being one of the worst decisions of their lives. Nice. That's a scary mystery surprise right there. What would you do? Michelle? A little girl, she's crying. Oh, I'm not letting her live in my doll. My doll's private. She can't live in my doll. She can't live there. But she's crying. I don't care. I don't care. She can move on and she can do a lot of things. She can't live in my doll. That's just a fact. She's not allowed. It's a private space, it is. I would have just gotten rid of the doll, yes, yes, and then gave the doll a wish. I would have just dumped that thing at the Goodwill so fast, like just takeing its yeah, eBay listing it. Raggedy am moves on its own sometimes it says one night oh Angie's fiance Lou, had never liked the doll and always felt uncomfortable around it. He had constantly tried to warn them about it too. One night, while he was staying there, he awoke from sleep and wasn't able to move. He then saw the doll at his feet and slowly climbed up his body and onto his chest, where it proceeded to strangle him until he blacked out. Until this day, he swears it wasn't a dream. This wasn't the only time Lou was attack though, as Annabel seemed to have her eye set on him because he knew all along something was wrong with her. One day, while in the apartment, Lou and Angie heard noises coming from the room next to them. Lou told Angie that he should check it out. When he entered the room, I was gonna say that she should check it in. That's noble of him, even though he's the one being harassed by the demon doll. Right, see, Angie right here is the bad guy. Yeah, Angie's a bad girlfriend, the bad partner. When he entered the room, he found Annabel sitting on the floor in the corner while walking toward her, he felt something behind him, but when he turned around, no one was there. Suddenly Lou fell to the floor in pain, and they found seven clawlike scratches on his chest. What was even weirder was that they reportedly healed within only two days, which is not scientifically possible. Then it didn't happen interesting. After this, the three of them could not take any more and ended up contacting the local church, who then contacted the warrants to come look at the doll. Okay, so the church. The church. The church was like, no thanks, let's just no thanks. We're not dealing with this raggedy ant doll. We'll get the Warrens out here. The Warrens then informed them that the doll was being used as a conduit for demonic entity, and there was never a little girl. Told you, there's never a little girl. There's never a little girl. Never. Oh man, I would have fallen for that. Yeah, I would have said, yeah, you can live in the doll, it's fine. No. Never, you never say yes. Never say yes to children in general. Never say yes to dead children. Why don't you know this, Never say yes children in general. They never since they pretended to be a little girl in order to gain their trust and fool them. Unsurprisingly, they told the priest to exercise the apartment, perform a blessing or on anyone living there, and took Annabelle home with them in order to protect everyone else from the evil. So after all this, I am sure many people are concerned about where she is now and if we are truly safe from the demonic doll. Well, much to everyone's relief, she is still safe and sound in the same place as she has been for decades. The Warrens are called museum and they're managed by their daughter and son in law Cool. She sits there day and night in a glass box made from holy objects and is blessed every week by a priest. On the front of the box reads to sign warning people to never open the box, aside from those trained to do so for the blessings trained to handle the doll. Even Lorrain warrins it when she was alive that she never liked to make eye contact with nnabel Sadly, not everyone heeds the warnings around the navel. As such, one man who visited the museum during a tour ed was giving. The man began taunted the doll and challenging it. Eventually Ed kicked him out and the man took off on his motorcycle with his girlfriend. On their way home, their motorcycle crashed and the man died instantly. Where we Yeah, no matter where we go, we can never escape the evil that exists in this world, but we can listen to those who warn us. It is the same for dolls. We can never get rid of dolls because they will always have a place in this world, from the morning dolls to sweet gifts that slowly turned into a citistener waking nightmare. Let's just hope that they never fall into the wrong hand. Do you want to hear a little bit about the ragged the history of the Raggedy Ann. Yeah, because when I found out it was a Raggedy Ann doll, I felt triggered because I remember receiving a raggedy Ann an Andy doll from my gra parents, so definitely not wanting one. And so I looked it up and I like a combination of Wikipedia and some articles in the PHILADELI I think it was like the Philadelphia Today or something like that. But the Raggedy Ann doll was created by Johnny Gruel, who was an illustrator back in I think he was born in eighteen eighty, so right at the turn of the century. He had this. He had a daughter named Marcella, and basically he went into his mother's attic and he remembered this doll that had been up there that his mother had maybe made his sister or something like that, but it didn't have a face, and so he drew this face on it, the face, the iconic Raggedy Ann face, and gave it to his daughter, Marcella, and then proceeded to write all these stories about Raggedy Ann. And then Raggedy Andy was invented a little while after, but Raggedy Ann was first. But so there's a couple different versions of what happened next. Is that, so Marcella was she was thirteen and she was vaccinated for smallpox at school without being given permission by her parents. They just did it without getting permission. There's like a few different stories. Is that either the vaccine was contaminated or the needle was contaminated because she died of an infection, yeah, when she was thirteen. And there's like a bunch of different stories. There's some creepy pastas about how Marcella had the doll before she died, but rumors later came out that he created the doll to be like Raggedy A rag doll is like Limph and was supposed to have been like it was mimicking how ill she was and how like Wheat she was, and it was like made an honor to her. But none of that is true. It was already being patented by the time she died. He was already taking it global like in the thirties, became like a huge thing. It blew up, like the Raggedy Ann stories sold like three million copies in that time. I don't know if the original doll still exists. I couldn't find any proof of that. But like original like Raggedy Ann and Andy's are like expensive, like from that time, like they're I think, pretty rare toys, which I really don't understand because I don't want that. Literally, I remember getting those and being five years old and being like, oh, what the hell is this? Just what the hell? So even back then you didn't like dolls, I would have got rid of the doll, like I said, Yeah, of course, I think that makes the most sense. Just get rid of the get rid of the doll before it even becomes If your mom gives you a present, gives you a twenty eight year old, a raggedy ann doll, get rid of it immediately. You shouldn't have even brought it in the house. She should have just been like, Mom, I'm twenty eight years old, why did you just buy me this? So that was the story of Annabelle. Creepy story. All right. So that ends today's episode. 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